How to Recover From Burnout and Redefine Success From Within with Chazz Scott
Burnout isn’t just long hours, endless emails, or back-to-back meetings. It’s a deeper misalignment between ambition and fulfillment, achievement and well-being, doing well and being well.
For high achievers, burnout often arrives not when they’re falling behind, but when they’re excelling on paper yet quietly unraveling inside.
In a recent conversation, author and speaker Chazz Scott—whose book Success Starts Within explores the science and psychology of sustainable performance—shared his own journey through burnout and the lessons he now teaches leaders. His insights provide a roadmap for those seeking not only to recover from burnout but also to redefine success itself.
Watch Episode with Chazz Scott Discussing Burnout
Why Achievement Alone Doesn’t Equal Success
By 2017, Scott had all the external markers of success: a master’s degree in cybersecurity, a government position managing cyber defense programs, a new condo, and even the car he’d always wanted. Yet he was falling asleep at the wheel, waking with anxiety, and running on empty.
This is a common trap for high performers. We believe that working harder will eventually produce the balance and peace we crave. But as Scott put it: “Working harder won’t heal what’s inside.”
The takeaway? Burnout isn’t solved by pushing through. It’s solved by rethinking the definition of success itself.
Building Sustainable Performance
Recovering from burnout requires more than temporary rest. It demands a shift in how leaders approach performance. Scott outlined several practices:
Rest and Recovery as Performance Tools – Sleep, exercise, and even stillness aren’t luxuries; they’re catalysts for sharper thinking, creativity, and resilience.
Radical Self-Trust – Many executives outsource decision-making to data, advisors, or comparison with peers. Scott argues that leaders must rebuild trust in their own intuition and inner compass.
Childlike Faith – The belief that you can take action before all evidence is in place. For Scott, this mindset fuels growth and unlocks courage in moments of uncertainty.
As he noted, “We focus so much on doing well that we don’t even know how to be well.”
How High Achievers Can Reframe Burnout
Burnout doesn’t need to be a career-ending wall. It can be a signal — a chance to realign. Executives and entrepreneurs can reframe burnout as:
A reminder that longevity matters more than short-term wins.
An invitation to adopt proven practices like breathwork, meditation, and recovery habits that support long-term energy.
A call to clarify purpose beyond achievement — ensuring each milestone is aligned with a deeper “why.”
In short, the solution isn’t abandoning ambition. It ensures that ambition is paired with fulfillment. Or as Scott put it: “What’s the point of climbing the mountain if you can’t enjoy the journey?”
Final Takeaway
Recovering from burnout is not about stepping away from performance; it's about finding a balance. It’s about transforming it. For leaders, the challenge is clear: success must start from within. Only when health, presence, and inner clarity are prioritized can achievement be sustainable — and meaningful.
For CEOs and entrepreneurs, this isn’t optional. It’s the foundation for long-term impact, legacy, and leadership.
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At Executive Health, we help forward-thinking leaders optimize their most valuable asset— their health—so they can thrive in business, lead in their communities, and be present with their families. If you’re navigating the pressures of high achievement and want to build a system for sustainable performance, learn more here.
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Chazz Scott Transcript (May Not Be Exact)
Julian Hayes II
(0:02) All right, welcome everyone to another episode of Executive Health and Life. (0:05) I'm your host, Julian Hayes II, back at it again with another fascinating guest. (0:08) I'm here with Chazzz Scott, author of the fantastic book, Success Starts Within.
(0:14) And we're going to talk about this and a whole host of other things. (0:17) He's a good friend of mine. (0:18) But before we start, I am curious, how did you like Portugal and what made you decide to go there?
Chazz Scott
(0:26) And coming off the bat, okay, that's actually an interesting story too. (0:31) But yeah, no, I'm happy to be here, Julian. (0:33) Thanks for having me.
(0:34) But Portugal was fantastic. (0:36) It was my first time overseas. (0:38) And for somebody that's grown up and lived in the United States to kind of see how people live in Europe was amazing.
(0:47) A lot slower lifestyle. (0:49) I had ChatGPT, because I'm a tech guy. (0:52) ChatGPT planned out my entire 10 day trip.
(0:56) So as soon as I woke up in the morning, I would ask, I created a folder, right? (1:01) Because I have a subscription, create a folder. (1:03) I was like, where am I going for breakfast today?
(1:04) And I had already selected it. (1:06) And it just told me the address and how long it would take for me to walk there, depending upon my Airbnb address. (1:12) So I had the entire trip planned out and it was much needed for a rest and recovery.
(1:17) It was a lot of fun, a lot of hiking and a lot of good food, man.
Julian Hayes II
(1:22) So I miss, I absolutely loved my time in Portugal. (1:27) And just like you, it's so different going over there because they didn't know I was American. (1:34) I don't remember if I told the story to listeners.
(1:36) So apologies if not, and it's good to hear it again. (1:39) It's a good reminder. (1:40) But they didn't know if I was American at first, right?
(1:43) If I was like French or something, maybe something from an island and I just went with it, right? (1:47) I knew just a little bit of Portuguese then. (1:49) And I gave away my American card.
(1:52) I remember on a Sunday when I was like, why is everything closed this morning? (1:57) I need somewhere to go work. (1:59) And they're like, oh, you're American.
Chazz Scott
(2:04) Classic.
Julian Hayes II
(2:05) Yeah.
Chazz Scott
(2:06) That is so classic. (2:08) You really do feel the different lifestyle change. (2:12) American is very hustle culture, rat race, achievement driven.
(2:18) And you definitely feel it. (2:20) It's definitely a change there. (2:22) And it was something that I needed to see, especially with all the work that I do.
(2:26) But to experience it is just something that I think we all need to and travel more often.
Julian Hayes II
(2:32) So which part did you go to?
Chazz Scott
(2:35) Yeah. (2:36) So I flew into CHAT GPT, told me to fly into Lisbon, stayed there for three days, stayed downtown by the water. (2:42) Then I took a train to Porto, stayed there for about three or four days and then went to Douro Valley for some wine tasting and stuff.
(2:52) And then I took a flight actually out to Madeira. (2:55) And Madeira is an island off the coast of Morocco. (2:58) It's a Portuguese island, but I, a Portugal island, I had never even heard of it.
(3:03) But CHAT GPT was like, you know, you should check it out. (3:06) So I looked at the Google, looked at the pictures. (3:07) I'm like, there is some amazing hiking out here.
(3:10) It's actually the, they call it Europe's Hawaii in terms of the hiking and the beaches and everything. (3:18) So just fantastic views out there. (3:22) I think I was waking up around 4am because I was just so excited.
(3:27) Imagine 10 days straight, just being so excited to wake up because you didn't know what the day was like. (3:32) That was me for 10 days because of how excited I was. (3:36) I traveled alone and I just loved it, man.
(3:39) Nice getaway to just not think about getting something done. (3:44) But as we'll start to learn, my nervous system was trained for it. (3:48) So.
Julian Hayes II
(3:48) Yeah. (3:49) How long did it take you to kind of unwind? (3:51) Because I remember I went there and I stayed around six weeks and I just stayed in Porto mostly.
(3:55) And it was, I just wanted to relax. (3:58) I just needed time to just relax. (4:00) And Porto is so small and it's quiet at night.
(4:04) I mean, I love the bridge and I love going across that bridge, but I remember it took me like a good week or two to actually settle into the slower pace of life. (4:15) I almost had like this anxious energy, like I need to be doing something. (4:19) I need to be moving or something.
Chazz Scott
(4:22) You know, I'm so glad you brought that up. (4:24) So when I flew into Lisbon, matter of fact, the entire 10 day trip, I said, listen, Chazz, you're going out here to rest, recover, and live your life. (4:34) Okay.
(4:35) You have no podcasts on the docket. (4:37) You don't need to be writing a book. (4:38) You don't need to be developing any seminars or coaching anyone.
(4:42) Rest. (4:43) So interesting enough. (4:45) And I actually just had just gotten divorced around that time.
(4:48) So I was like, this is a time for me and to enjoy my life. (4:51) So as I was over there, I flew in Lisbon, woke up the first morning, Julian. (4:58) And the first thing my nervous system said, or what I felt my body was, I got to do my morning routine.
(5:04) I need to run. (5:05) I need to meditate. (5:06) I need to read.
(5:08) I was (5:08) so focused on like achievement and performance that, you know, my nervous system, because of, (5:14) you know, growing up in America, growing up as a minority, you know, if you've been taught that (5:19) you have to work 10 times harder than everybody else in the room, whether you're a woman, whether (5:23) you're a minority, even if you're like a blue, come from a blue collar family, there's sort of (5:27) these psychological unconscious drive to sort of succeed and perform and achieve.
(5:34) And I felt that in my nervous system when I woke up at 5 a.m. my first day in Portugal. (5:40) And sure enough, it was funny because after I did my morning routine that morning, I had to take a train to Sintra. (5:48) Okay.
(5:48) And I set the, I looked online. (5:50) I was like, okay, I'm going to take the 1030 train. (5:53) So I'm like, all right, let me shower.
(5:55) Let me get my stuff ready. (5:57) And I'm basically running around the Airbnb, rushing, trying to make this 1030 train. (6:03) My heart is speeding up.
(6:05) I have my whoop bracelet on. (6:06) So it's tracking my heart rate. (6:08) Right.
(6:08) And sure enough, I call the Uber, Uber comes pick me up. (6:12) I walk downstairs, get into the Uber and I'm like, I forgot my wallet. (6:18) So I was, I was trying to yell at the Uber driver.
(6:21) I don't have my wallet. (6:22) I can't, you know, he, he didn't even speak English. (6:24) So I felt like an idiot just saying like using every word under the sun to say, stop.
(6:28) So I get out of the Uber when he finally stops, rush back upstairs to the Airbnb. (6:33) And I said to myself, Chazz, you're on vacation. (6:37) You need to live your life.
(6:39) If you miss the 1030 train, take the 11. (6:44) And it was that moment where I was like, my nervous system is still caught in this hustle drive performance, performance and achievement culture. (6:54) And that was a moment where I knew that I needed to continue to do that type of work.
(7:00) But also, you know, for people that travel and to see that and experience that, you know, I think it's very profound how certain cultures or lifestyles will affect how you rest and the way that you're able to take care of your body. (7:14) Because as many of you know, we keep hearing these buzzwords like burnout and blood pressure rising and, you know, something called screen apnea, which means people don't even breathe while they're looking at their screens. (7:27) The point is, yeah, that's something new.
(7:30) The point is, many high performers are really good at performing and achieving, but they don't know how to take care of themselves. (7:38) And, you know, that's some of the work that I do to help increase performance, but also make sure that they're in it for the long haul.
Julian Hayes II
(7:45) Yeah. (7:45) Before we get in that, I'm going to go a little bit into your origin story. (7:48) I'm curious about this.
(7:50) So you're a military child, your dad, B-52 navigator in the US Air Force. (7:56) I'm curious, what has been maybe a couple of lessons that you've taken from him that has made you the person you are today?
Chazz Scott
(8:03) Yeah. (8:04) So my dad was key in that, and it was mostly his behaviors and his habits that I saw growing up, which were really unique and interesting. (8:12) You know, waking up very early, you know, always staying fit, you know, being within the United States Air Force, especially as a B-52 navigator, you have to be ready.
(8:23) I mean, he was in Desert Storm, Desert Shield, moving B-52s, flying them overseas. (8:28) So, you know, discipline. (8:31) And not only that, you know, some of his values and his character on how to lead, how to get things done.
(8:38) One of the things I started to recognize, especially as I got older, was like really some of his unconscious habits or some of his things that he does daily that makes him succeed, which I wasn't able to do. (8:50) Maybe I kind of gotten that unconsciously when I was growing up. (8:53) But as I started to get older, I started to realize like, there's things that he's doing that he got from the military that actually make him successful.
(9:02) Leaders are readers. (9:03) He was always a reader, very diligent and trying to understand his money. (9:09) And as now he's about to retire out of the, he left the military, now he's a contractor.
(9:14) So, you know, he, you know, he did well for himself, but it was because he continued to optimize his life with daily habits that contributed to where he is now. (9:25) And that's what I saw very early in my life.
Julian Hayes II
(9:29) That's interesting. (9:30) Okay. (9:30) So I'm going to fast forward now and I'm going to go to the year 2017.
(9:34) And researching on you, your book and everything, this is kind of the moment, the fork in the road, it sounds like, where this whole journey took off even more about you hitting burnout. (9:47) And so let's dive into that moment or that time period for you.
Chazz Scott
(9:52) Yeah, no, thanks for bringing that up. (9:53) So this was 2017 and I wrote about it in the book, but in 2017, I had just graduated with my master's in cybersecurity. (10:03) I have an undergrad degree in computer science.
(10:06) And I was just kind of going into the workforce, trying to climb the ladder, trying to prove myself in the federal government managing cyber defense programs. (10:18) Interesting enough, I had a nonprofit at the same time that I was building out giving mental wellness workshops to underserved youth in Baltimore and DC. (10:26) So I had a nonprofit going, I was trying to be a significant other.
(10:30) I had an hour and a half long commute into work, and I was trying to climb the ladder within the federal government managing cyber defense programs. (10:38) And there was a moment where I was falling asleep at the wheel. (10:43) I didn't have enough energy or time to give to my family and friends on the weekends.
(10:48) And I knew something was off. (10:51) I was waking up in the morning, sweating, and just fearful of the day. (10:56) And that's when a light bulb went off.
(10:59) And I said, wait a minute, Chazz, you just got your job here. (11:04) You have a BMW, 335, six-speed manual, red interior. (11:09) You have a condo looking over the Potomac in Washington, DC.
(11:13) You have all the material items of success. (11:16) And what I think happiness is, and yet you're depressed, and yet you don't know how to manage your emotions, and yet you're not happy. (11:27) And then on top of that, you're not performing well.
(11:29) And that's when a light bulb went off. (11:31) And basically, I went on a journey to read every book I could. (11:36) And back in college, I went to Hampton University.
(11:39) I read a book titled Power of Positive Thinking by Dr. Norma Vincent Peale. (11:43) And that actually inspired me to launch our nonprofit, Positively Caviar, for youth mental wellness workshops. (11:51) But because I have sort of a science background, I wanted to prove the validity of this whole positive thinking self-help movement.
(11:59) And so I went on a journey to read books and positive psychology and neuroscience. (12:05) Anything under the sun about improving the quality of your life, I probably read it. (12:11) Because what I was taught wasn't true, which means if I work harder professionally, my life will get better.
(12:18) It's not true. (12:19) And it was a wake-up call because I started to realize that you can read a lot of success books and get really good at achieving and completing things. (12:30) But if you don't know how to take care of yourself, your mind, body, and soul, you're out of alignment, you're not making great decisions, and you don't have enough energy to do the things that you absolutely love to do.
(12:41) So, you know, like most of the listeners, I've read every book I could from a success perspective, Think and Grow Rich, Psycho-Cybernetics, The Science of Getting Rich, The Secret. (12:52) If you can think of any book, I probably read it. (12:54) But the point is, all of those success books didn't tie in sort of the importance of well-being and the importance of taking care of yourself for longevity and from a performance standpoint.
(13:08) So leading me into researching neuroscience and positive psychology on how to improve the quality of my life right now, because what I was told wasn't true. (13:18) So that was kind of 2017.
Julian Hayes II
(13:20) Yeah. (13:21) You know, I can relate to a lot of this because I feel like achievement is great, but the appetite only gets bigger. (13:27) And I think about this, right?
(13:30) Because I met with one of my very first clients, and I was talking about something. (13:34) She was like, remember when you were just trying to get your first article in the newspaper, now look at you. (13:40) And now you're trying to get this other thing, right?
(13:42) It just keeps growing. (13:43) Remember when you were, when an ultra marathon was so big deal for you? (13:48) Now you just, now it's nothing.
(13:50) I was like, oh, okay, I see the point. (13:52) She's like, so whatever you're striving for, the goalpost is going to move. (13:57) So it will probably be wise for you to learn how to enjoy the present moment and do that.
(14:03) So my question to you is, how do we balance being ambitious? (14:10) Because that's a beautiful thing to have ambition, but still try to enjoy this moment. (14:14) And that's something personally, I'm still trying to work out because I'm like, man, I need to get this done.
(14:19) I need to get that done. (14:20) I need to go here. (14:21) I'm trying to work on this.
(14:22) I don't got time for a lot of this other stuff. (14:24) How do you manage that?
Chazz Scott
(14:26) Yeah. (14:27) So interesting enough, this is some of the stuff that I work on with my clients. (14:31) And it's interesting because what I find is a lot of people who want to achieve something, they either want to prove something, complete something, or maybe they're running away from something and they know they've suffered what it means to not put food on the table, not provide to their family and they need to go, they need to push and they need to achieve.
(14:58) So one of the things that I do actually in some of my programming is understand like, why do you want to achieve? (15:05) What's the overall intent of you trying to achieve this thing? (15:09) Because you always hear those stories of people who achieve amazing things or celebrities who are super rich.
(15:15) They have the material items and yet they're not fulfilled. (15:18) And what I always like to tell people is like, what is the point of achieving something if you're not fulfilled and happy? (15:25) So dialing in on your overall mission and purpose is critical.
(15:31) Like why do you wake up in the morning and do what you do? (15:34) It may be to make money and have those titles behind your name, but the key is how does that relate to your why or your purpose, your long-term vision? (15:47) Because in my own life, I remember when I published my first book two years ago, I already knew this research.
(15:53) I said to myself, Chazz, once you publish this book, you do know that your mind is going to search for another goal, right? (16:00) Yeah, I know it. (16:02) So I was already focused on sort of knowing that the mind is always trying to achieve more.
(16:08) So I said to myself, okay, if that's the case, I need to continue along my journey. (16:14) And that journey is to help high achievers have a better relationship with work and life. (16:21) And I'm already starting my next book, right?
(16:24) So I'm not always sort of thinking like this is it, this is the pinnacle. (16:29) I need to reach this and that's it. (16:31) I know my long-term purpose and that long-term purpose stays with me no matter what.
(16:36) And it gets me out of sort of the loop of, if I achieve this, I'm going to be happy. (16:43) No, no, no. (16:44) You can be happy right now.
(16:46) And interesting enough that the happiness advantage, there's tons of books and studies on this. (16:51) I won't dive too deep into it, but if you're happy now, there's neurotransmitters are released and dopamine is released into the brain that actually enhance your mental capacities, enhance your memory, enhance your performance. (17:03) So if you can focus on sort of the habits that are contributing to your overall mood, your state, your energy, you're not only able to feel good when you're performing, but you're able to sustain it and then actually feel fulfilled in the process.
(17:20) And that's why I always say, it's like, what's the point of working so hard, trying to climb this mountain? (17:26) You reached the peak of the mountain. (17:28) Not only have you been climbing the wrong mountain, but you haven't been enjoying the journey.
(17:32) What's the point? (17:33) What's the point of working so hard when you get to the peak and you're not able to enjoy the fruits of your own labor because you don't know how to balance your work life and professional life. (17:43) I mean, your personal life.
(17:45) So it's all about optimizing sort of systems and habits throughout your day so that you can enjoy your life, but also perform better and feel better. (17:55) And this is one of the things I talk about in the book. (17:57) It's like, what's the point of, especially in America, right?
(18:01) We focus so much on doing well that we don't even know how to be well, but if you focus on being well, not only do you perform better, but you feel good in the process. (18:13) And I'm a true Testament that because in 2017, I had all the material items of success, but I wasn't feeling good. (18:21) I wasn't sustaining it.
(18:22) And I knew something was wrong in my body and I knew something needed to change.
Julian Hayes II
(18:27) That's a powerful thing right there. (18:28) And it reminds me of something that you wrote on, you had an Instagram post almost a week ago where you shared, and I love this. (18:34) You said, here's the hard truth, working harder won't heal what's inside.
(18:38) And I was like, that really strikes to the core. (18:41) And I'm curious when it comes to that and the clients that you talk to, is this something that men struggle with predominantly in greater amounts than women in terms of this aspects here?
Chazz Scott
(18:53) Interesting enough, I actually see it across the board. (18:57) So, with my clients, so just for the listeners understand. (19:01) So a lot of the work that I do is on burnout, employee retention, and sustainable performance.
(19:08) So organizations will bring me in and I'll either do a consultation or a seminar, especially in the healthcare industry, because they're trying to get rid of burnout to increase quality of health, healthcare to patients. (19:21) But even in my coaching clients, one of the things I consistently see across the board is literally this unconscious drive to succeed. (19:30) And I remember this was a professor, I won't get too specific to be careful, but she's a professor at a university.
(19:38) And I remember her when we chatted in one of our coaching sessions, she said, Chazz, it's really hard for me to take a day off. (19:45) I made 10 year, I've done all the things that I knew that I could do. (19:50) She's a second generation American and she proved to herself that she could do it.
(19:57) And yet it's hard for her to go on vacation. (20:00) And there are tons of clients like that from men to women. (20:05) And one of the things that I've dubbed from a psychological (20:09) standpoint is this term called sacrificial guilt syndrome, which means, you know, if you've been (20:15) taught that you have to work 10 times harder than everybody in the room, if you're a minority, (20:20) if you're a woman, if you are a person of color, or even if you've just come from a blue collar (20:24) family, and you know that there are people in your family that have sacrificed for you for where you (20:29) are right now, or maybe you went through some traumas, there is an unconscious drive to succeed. (20:35) And it's hard for them to rest.
(20:38) And I'm trying to change the relationship and help people to help people to understand that the more that you begin to focus on, you know, resting and recovery, the better that you are able to perform, and then you feel good in the process. (20:55) A simple example is sleep. (20:57) A lot of people feel like they have to sacrifice sleep to get things done.
(21:01) I was that way. (21:02) And I think all the studies are showing that your brain chemicals are enhanced when you have good enough amount of sleep, you're able to think clear, you know, your body is able to get rid of inflammation when you sleep. (21:17) So there are tons of studies that are proving that and yet we sacrifice one of the most critical components of being a human being to allow us to feel good, but also perform good.
(21:31) And, you know, I think I told you about this study back is a group of German scientists back in 2007, and they wanted to understand how exercise helps to enhance performance, right? (21:43) And they took two groups of people. (21:48) One group learned new vocabulary words after working out.
(21:51) The other group learned new vocabulary words before working out. (21:55) And the group that learned those new vocabulary words 20% faster was the group that learned those new vocabulary words after working out. (22:05) So what does this say?
(22:06) A lot of people are like, I don't have enough time to take care of myself or work out. (22:10) Here's the truth. (22:11) When you work out first, when you take care of yourself first, you're able to accelerate towards your goals faster.
(22:19) Your brain is stimulated. (22:21) There's something called in the brain called brain derived neurotrophic factor, which means after a workout or aerobic exercise, this neurotransmitter is released into the brain. (22:31) It's basically like miracle growth for your brain, and it enhances your memory.
(22:36) It enhances your ability to think clearly. (22:39) So this is why I always say it's like the science is proving that if you take care of yourself first, not only will you achieve your goals faster with more joy, with more ease, right? (22:51) It's almost like things just start coming at you once you're in alignment with yourself.
(22:54) You're not Chazzing. (22:56) There's some flow and ease to your life. (22:59) Things get easier and you enjoy the process.
Julian Hayes II
(23:05) So what does burnout mean to you? (23:07) Cause you know, I write on burnout. (23:10) I have my own definition, I guess, interpretation of it.
(23:12) And it seems like everybody else does as well. (23:15) So what is burnout?
Chazz Scott
(23:17) It's a good question. (23:19) And I think the term, especially during COVID has skyrocketed like crazy. (23:25) Um, yeah.
(23:26) And you know, I don't, for me, I don't really like to get caught up on terms too much. (23:30) You really sort of feel what's happening to your body. (23:33) I think prior to COVID, you know, the term burnout was high blood pressure or the fact that Monday morning, most people have heart attacks at Monday morning because they're afraid of the anxiety of going into their day.
(23:48) I forgot what the study is, but there's a percentage amount of people that have heart attacks on Monday morning because they're afraid of the day, um, week. (23:56) So, so the point is that it's always been here. (24:00) Now we just have a term to describe what's happening in our body, which means we need a better relationship with work.
(24:06) We need a better relationship with our professional and personal lives. (24:11) And if you can start to implement practices, um, and sort of success habits throughout your day, you're able to better manage stress. (24:21) You're able to make decisions clearer.
(24:25) Um, I'll tell you a quick example. (24:26) You know, a lot of the work I do, I get called into Fox five DC to speak upon some of these topics. (24:33) And I'll never forget, this was like my third time there.
(24:37) Uh, and the studio is in Bethesda, Maryland. (24:39) So I drove from Arlington up to Bethesda, Maryland, and you know, I'm pumped up. (24:45) It's 4 a.m. I'm excited. (24:47) I'll never forget. (24:48) I was going up the elevator and all of a sudden my breath started to get very shallow and I was getting nervous. (24:55) I felt it in my body.
(24:56) I was like, Chazz, what are you doing? (24:57) Getting nervous, right? (24:58) And interesting enough, because I have a tool to fall back on, I was able to get back in the state.
(25:04) So I did a quick breathwork exercise, right? (25:07) And you know, I give these to my clients and stuff and recordings. (25:10) And right after I did that breathwork exercise, I got right back in the state and I felt good.
(25:16) And I was able to present, you know, proficiently speak to, I don't know, hundreds, thousands of people that were tuning in and to clearly articulate the knowledge that I had in my brain without feeling nervous. (25:29) So this is what I'm talking about. (25:31) We need to ensure that we have tools to fall back on, to manage stress so that we can perform well, but also feel good in the process.
(25:39) And I find that a lot of us have not been taught tools to do so. (25:42) We hear about them, but how do you implement them daily? (25:45) And I think that is a critical piece, especially for high performers, as well as sort of your, the folks that are listening in who are maybe executives that need to perform well, but also take care of themselves to maintain their longevity, as well as their wealth.
Julian Hayes II
(26:00) Yeah. (26:00) You know, you're speaking on tools and one of the tools that I was researching you a little more is, I think you said for like seven years, which, you know, I'm going to, I'm not going to clap because I don't want to mess up the sound quality here, but I'm going to salute you with the consistency there that whenever you trust your gut or intuition, you write it down in your notes app. (26:21) So what's the, so I guess the first question is what made you start that?
Chazz Scott
(26:28) I'm glad you picked that up. (26:30) So, you know, when you start doing all this research on positive psychology and neuroscience, you start to gain more awareness of how your brain and body operate. (26:39) So one of the things that I picked up on was, you know, sometimes we forget either, you know, the things that we achieved or the hard things that we didn't want to do, but we did it anyway, especially during states where we're venturing into something new.
(26:54) We're trying to start a new business. (26:56) We're trying to start a new habit. (26:57) We're trying to get rid of an old habit.
(26:59) So you need sort of reminders of the things that you've done in the past. (27:04) And you and I both know this, right? (27:06) So we average, now they say 60,000 thoughts.
(27:09) I think there's new studies that say it's 6,000 thoughts, but nonetheless, we have thousands of thoughts that are running through our head each and every day. (27:16) And many people say that 86 for those 86% of those thoughts are negative. (27:20) And many of them are repetitive, depending on who you are, as I say, depending on who you are.
(27:28) But the point is, we're always going to the negative side, and sort of the fight or flight, protect yourself. (27:36) And so I said to myself, well, you know, I need an activity where I can remind myself of what I've done, because I can do hard things. (27:43) And I can remind myself to do so.
(27:46) So every time I do something where I think I couldn't do it, or a synchronicity happens, or something, you know, something good happens, I write it down in my notes. (27:55) And I was just, I wrote something down yesterday, because I had to do a presentation. (27:59) But I scrolled down, because you have to scroll all the way down your notes at, I mean, I was scrolling pages, man.
(28:04) And it's really cool to kind of see those, those highlights and those successes to remind yourself, like, you can do cool stuff, like you are good at what you do. (28:15) Don't forget it. (28:16) And here's a reason to not forget it.
(28:19) And you and I both know how, you know, powerful it is to train the brain, this is something that I'm doing to train myself. (28:25) You know, the brain's, you know, reticular activating system is constantly searching for information to validate, you know, your nervous system and validate who you are, you want to utilize sort of those principles to remind yourself who you are. (28:40) And during high states of stress, or even anxiety or depression, you need to remind yourself who you are.
(28:49) So I've I forget, like I said, some of the things that I've done, but it is a good reminder that I share with my clients. (28:56) Yeah.
Julian Hayes II
(28:56) Yeah, I mean, that's a good, that's a good practice. (28:58) Because, you know, people like us and people listening, probably as well. (29:03) You're always just thinking about what's next?
(29:06) That's probably one of your favorite questions is what's next? (29:08) What's the next milestone? (29:10) What's the what's the next benchmark that we're going toward?
(29:13) And so you oftentimes forget all these things that you would love to be where you are right now, five years ago, doing some of the things you're doing. (29:22) But it's become so normalized to you. (29:25) And for me, I would say, a big part is kind of what we what we see, a lot of times the content we consume, we probably curate it.
(29:33) And so we're seeing the best of the best, we're seeing outliers. (29:37) And so we tend to think that that's the norm. (29:40) So I'm not going to lie, I saw so many entrepreneurs and their exit in their companies, these unicorn companies, right?
(29:46) For all this amount. (29:48) And I'm like, man, I must suck. (29:51) Because I'm not having the success like this.
(29:54) And then I actually go look at some stats. (29:55) And I'm like, average entrepreneurs in the 40s. (29:58) And you know, millionaires and in the 50s, and things like that.
(30:01) I was like, Oh, wait a minute, I'm looking at the probably top 5% of the 5%. (30:07) Right? (30:08) So that's, that to me is a key thing there is to realize a lot of times that we may be caught in a bubble at times.
Chazz Scott
(30:17) I'm glad you brought that up, Julian, because the algorithms, especially on Instagram, you know, throughout these social media companies, they're very good at tailoring information based upon the information that you fed it. (30:30) So if you're following a whole bunch of entrepreneurs, guess what, that's all you're going to see. (30:34) And you're going to think your worldview is just that.
(30:38) And it's not. (30:39) And I'm guilty of it, too. (30:40) Like I follow, I follow everybody from Deepak Chopra to David Goggins.
(30:45) And those two people are in a complete opposite opposite ends of the spectrum. (30:49) David Goggins wake up at 3am, go for a 15 mile run, and then go into your day. (30:53) Deepak Chopra wakes up at 11am, does a meditation and yoga and gets into his day.
(30:59) The point is, you're on your timeline, you never know what you're going to see. (31:04) And a lot of times I, you know, I sit down, I'm like, well, I got a full day to myself, I'm just going to chill. (31:10) You throw on Instagram, and then all of a sudden you see a David Goggins video.
(31:13) And he's like, what you want to do? (31:15) You don't want to be a top 1%? (31:17) You just want to rest all day?
(31:18) So you're like, Oh, my gosh, like, can I just read? (31:21) So it's funny how social media affects, you know, high performers and just feeling guilty of resting. (31:28) But if I could just say this one thing, Julian, just to add to this is, you know, especially high performers and high achievers, if you're looking to venture or accomplish or do something new, one of the things that I always constantly tell people in my coaching and seminars is your body wants to keep you safe at all times.
(31:48) So if you're if you're experiencing stress, it's a lot harder to achieve your goals, and to train your nervous system to do uncomfortable things. (31:56) So you must continue to ensure that you make your body feel safe. (32:01) And how do you do that?
(32:02) You take care of yourself, breathwork, meditation, cold plunges, all the things under the sun that you everybody has probably heard before. (32:08) But the point is, when you put your body in a state of coherence, and a state of self love and a state of safety, it's much easier to achieve. (32:19) Because you're not in fight or flight, you have to train your nervous system.
(32:23) And once you get out of that box, and realize when you put your body and mind and soul in a state of safety, you do things that you didn't think that you could do before, you're able to speak because you know how to manage your nervous system, your negative self talk, and you can fall back on tools with breathwork. (32:42) I didn't think I could speak on the news, write a book, do all these things until I started to take care of myself. (32:49) And I started to realize that everybody else is not taking care of themselves, and is not putting their health forward.
(32:55) So high achievers, executives, it's a critical component and what separates the people that stay in the game and enjoy it versus people that can't do it anymore.
Julian Hayes II
(33:07) Yeah, and I think that piggybacks off one of the newsletters you wrote, where you're talking about not running your own race. (33:12) You know, yeah. (33:14) How do you get people to start running their own race?
Chazz Scott
(33:17) I think it really comes down, we talked about in terms of like purpose and why, but it's so easy to compare yourself, you know, in an organization, on social media, and we're constantly being fed narratives from other people. (33:31) So we have to get clear on your reason for, why do you do what you do? (33:36) Why do you wake up in the morning?
(33:38) Why do you want to achieve this? (33:40) And I think getting clarity on that is so important, because otherwise, you're running around with somebody else's story, you're running around with somebody else's narrative, and you forget literally who you are, because your entire self-talk is somebody else's. (33:58) And one of the things that I started to realize, you know, I started a meditation practice probably about eight years ago, 20 minutes every morning.
(34:06) I just jumped it up to 25 for this year. (34:09) But the point is, when I started a meditation practice, and I just started to hear myself, I started to understand what I wanted, instead of all the other extra noise. (34:22) And I find that a lot of people can't do that.
(34:25) And this goes back to a quote, I think it's Pascal where he says, all of a man's problems stem from not being able to sit alone in a room and just be quiet and still. (34:33) Absolutely. (34:34) And if you (34:35) can do that, it's very interesting how creativity bubbles up to the surface, how you're able to (34:41) perform better, how you are able to be more present with yourself, as well as others, which is a key (34:48) leadership skill in any organization, or, you know, if you want to build out a company, if you don't (34:53) know how to be present and lead effectively with people, and to be mindful of how you talk to them, (34:59) how you say thank you, you know, that really accelerates your success and being able to build (35:04) teams and strategically plan.
(35:06) So meditation, stillness, you know, these are performance enhancers. (35:12) And we are meant to do these practices so that we can go out there and live a productive, happy and joyful life. (35:19) That's it.
Julian Hayes II
(35:21) I'm curious for you, what's your, I guess, what's your current iteration of why you do everything that you do? (35:27) What's your mission?
Chazz Scott
(35:29) Well, it changes a lot. (35:31) But I think my overall mission is to ensure that, especially high achievers, understand the importance of taking care of oneself. (35:40) That's it.
(35:41) As simple as that. (35:43) And I think, particularly in America, but you could say across the world, we've been taught this rat race, this hustle culture, this, you know, you, you can't sleep until you die culture. (35:58) And interesting enough, the science is saying the complete opposite, as well as many of the spiritual traditions that have been around for 5000 years.
(36:06) So some of these traditions have been around for 5000 years to enhance the quality of people's lives. (36:11) I think we should pay attention to that. (36:13) So until now, science is proving the importance of meditation.
(36:16) But the point is, I really want to illuminate the importance of taking care of oneself, seeking information to realize that you can improve the quality of your life. (36:27) You, you can, you don't have to stay stagnant. (36:30) You don't have to have that self limiting belief tell you that you can't do that.
(36:33) You don't have to have your negative self talk tell you that you can't accomplish or achieve that goal. (36:39) Or even, you know, think that you can go talk to that beautiful woman across across the park, right? (36:44) Or you know, that that husband, that potential husband or boyfriend, the point is, there are ways to enhance the quality of your life.
(36:52) And if you go seek those resources, your life gets better now, not in the future. (36:58) We focus on the now and then the future just happens as it should.
Julian Hayes II
(37:01) Yeah, yeah. (37:02) And I think another good thing, especially from a psychological standpoint is releasing forgot how you phrase it, but I'll do this or I'll be happy. (37:13) You know, when this happens, all these conditions on different aspects of our life.
(37:18) And also, I think you, let's see, what were you talking about? (37:22) You were talking about a, oh, I remember now you were talking about not being where we think we should be feeling like that. (37:32) Like, so say you're, I'm almost 40.
(37:35) And interestingly enough, I don't mind sharing this. (37:37) I was talking with a friend, right? (37:39) And it's ironic.
(37:40) I was like, you know, I'm almost 40. (37:42) I thought I would have a family by now. (37:44) And he's like, you know, I'm almost 40.
(37:48) I didn't think I would be so out of shape already. (37:51) And so we're laughing, but he has the big family and everything. (37:55) And I'm like, man, that's it.
(37:57) And then, you know, I'm in, you know, thank God and everything. (38:00) I'm in very good shape. (38:02) And so we're looking at each other like, man, that's awesome that you have that.
(38:05) And I'm like, oh, no, that's awesome that you have that. (38:08) And we put all these conditions on there. (38:09) So I'm wondering for yourself, did you ever struggle with this thing of like, man, I thought I would have this by now, but I don't, and I feel bad, et cetera, et cetera.
Chazz Scott
(38:17) A hundred percent. (38:18) And very early sort of in my speaking coaching career, you know, you start following sort of a lot of people that are way ahead of you. (38:27) And you start to think that, you know, you're supposed to have that same success, you know, because the mind really, the mind really just is searching for information, you know, because of this negative self-talk that we have the propensity to have.
(38:43) But yeah, you know, you have to have perspective, like when you're comparing yourself to others and everybody else's timeline, you forget that, you know, some people may have put in more hours than you have and much more time that you have. (38:57) For me, as I started to compare myself to other authors and speakers and other leaders, I forgot that not only have they started, you know, much earlier than I have, but, you know, they probably have access to information that I probably don't have. (39:11) So what do I need to do?
(39:12) Maybe I just need to go find the information that they have and adopt those same habits. (39:17) And it's interesting, once you start to reprioritize and focus on yourself, you start to enjoy your life and not get so caught up in other people's timelines. (39:26) You know, when I started writing my book, Success Starts Within, I started to sort of understand sort of this importance of having a morning routine and, you know, identifying sort of success habits, right?
(39:38) And one of the things that I found was a lot of celebrities from Obama to Melody Hobson, from, you know, The Rock, you know, Mark Wahlberg, a lot of people who are highly ambitious and successful have a morning routine. (39:53) And I said to myself, well, I'm depressed, I have anxiety, I'm stressed, and I'm fearful when I'm waking up in the morning. (40:01) If I want the same success that these individuals have, that means I need the same habits.
(40:08) And if I'm comparing myself to their success, I need to make sure I'm doing the same things that they're doing for me. (40:16) And interesting enough, when I flipped the script and I said, what am I doing that's contributing to my own success instead of comparing to somebody else's, I started to focus on my own journey. (40:25) I started figuring out what works for me, right?
(40:27) I'm not going to wake up in the morning and read a book, because I guarantee you, I will fall asleep. (40:31) So what does work for me, as soon as I wake up, I go for a mile run, right? (40:34) So I got to figure out what works for me and identify success habits that people have used time and time again, that make them happy and healthy and successful, and utilize those principles for myself so that I'm not constantly comparing myself to somebody else.
(40:50) I'm focusing on who I'm becoming, not who they are, but who I'm becoming. (40:55) And that flip in terms of that script, and I do it still now, you know, to make sure that I'm focused on me, not on them, in terms of who I'm becoming in my own journey. (41:06) So I think it takes some time, but the practice is focus on yourself and understand their success habits and then replicate them and see what works for you, so you can enjoy your journey.
Julian Hayes II
(41:16) And I think this sounds almost like I believe it was chapter six, and you're working toward ascension there, right? (41:21) Some of this part right here. (41:24) What's childlike faith?
(41:25) And can we get that back?
Chazz Scott
(41:30) Yeah, you know, I think a lot of the listeners will kind of enjoy this. (41:34) So I'll talk about a story real quick. (41:37) My father, he was stationed at the Pentagon, I believe, when we were living in Virginia.
(41:42) And I was still young. (41:45) I remember having this toy. (41:47) And it was fall time frame.
(41:49) And I was with my grandfather. (41:51) And we happened to be outside, I think in the back porch. (41:55) And there was leaves on the ground, but I had dropped the toy.
(41:58) I had dropped either the toy or the batteries of the toy in the sort of grass area where the leaves were. (42:08) And my grandfather overheard me say, Lord lay my eyes on it. (42:12) And I grew up Christian, I probably didn't even know what those words actually meant in terms of Lord, but I kind of grew up in that tradition.
(42:19) And sure enough, you know, after I shortly said that statement, I was able to find sort of those batteries. (42:28) And my grandfather, my mom keep reminding me of this story. (42:31) But the point is, during that moment of stress where I couldn't find the battery, I still had sort of this ingrained belief of faith that I could.
(42:41) And, you know, a portion of me saying Lord laid my eyes on it is an opportunity for me to speak what it is that I want, and then have the self belief that I know that I could get it. (42:51) And that's that childlike faith that I think we all want to adopt. (42:55) Interesting enough, the saying Lord laid my eyes on I don't know where it came from, is something that a lot of my family still continues to use.
(43:02) When they lose their wallet or their keys, they'll say the statement. (43:06) And sure enough, it just shows up right there in the same place that they looked at, which I'm sure happens to many of us. (43:12) But the point is, you know, if you're a high achiever, if you are somebody that wants to do things in life, you need to continue to develop that childlike faith.
(43:24) Many times in life, we get caught in what I call sort of the analytical mind. (43:29) We think I don't have enough money. (43:31) I don't have enough resources.
(43:32) I don't have the right network. (43:34) I don't have the I don't, I can't speak like how they speak. (43:38) And, and that causes us not even to try not even to have that ingrained childlike faith that most of us already have when we're young, but it's beaten out of us when we grow older, and we get caught in a society that tells us that we have to analyze everything.
(43:54) And I think many of us forget that this is an ingrained belief that we have that I believe is in all humans and intertwined within us. (44:05) But you have to continue to build it. (44:08) Number one, know that you have it.
(44:10) But number two, how do you build it? (44:12) You know, you have to do hard things, you have to make sure that you're doing things where you are challenging sort of your ability to pursue and have faith in something that you can't see. (44:23) But, you know, you're able to manifest and create in your own life.
(44:28) And you build up sort of this repertoire of knowing that, you know, you can do hard things, and you can create things out of nothing. (44:37) So childlike faith is critical to any human being. (44:41) Because if you take a look at all the things that you've accomplished, or where you are today, sometimes you didn't know how you did it, but you got it done.
(44:50) And sometimes you can't plan that out. (44:51) Sometimes you can't use chat GPT to plan out your life. (44:55) Sometimes you can't hire, you know, a business coach to tell you how you're going to get to this certain metric.
(45:03) But you know what will assist in that is you picking up the phone, you know, calling clients, you know, developing that childlike faith to take action regardless of what the metrics or the analytical mind says. (45:15) And I think that's important for all of us.
Julian Hayes II
(45:18) Yeah. (45:18) I mean, man, I can relate to so much of that right now. (45:21) It reminds me, you know, when we talked, when we first met, and we had coffee, we talked about Neville Goddard a lot.
(45:29) Yeah. (45:30) And that's kind of just what I feel right now, right? (45:32) You're almost, you're living in that assumption right now.
(45:36) You know, and right now, there's no visible evidence of it. (45:40) Not an ounce of visible evidence in this physical 3D world, right? (45:45) But in my head, I can see it.
(45:47) I can, you know, I can do it and I can be it. (45:49) And, and you got to move in that kind of energy. (45:52) And I think that takes a certain kind of trust as well in faith, like you mentioned.
(45:57) And I'm curious, why do you think people lose trust within themselves?
Chazz Scott
(46:03) I think it's numerous of things. (46:05) It's sort of how you were raised, the current society that we're in, there's a multitude of things. (46:11) And I can, I'll speak for myself and maybe some of my clients that I work with, but a lot of us, we rely too much externally on decisions and things that we need to do in our life.
(46:26) Now, mind you, you know, I think you should use your whole brain, your right, left brain hemisphere, your creative side, your analytical side. (46:34) You should use your whole brain to make decisions. (46:37) But there are certain times in life where you're not able to look externally to make a decision.
(46:43) There's certain times where you can, okay? (46:45) But that's not what we're talking about. (46:46) We're talking about childlike faith and, and radical self trust within yourself.
(46:52) There have been times in life where you have to make a decision and you just say, I don't know what it is, but this is the decision that has to be made. (47:00) And I don't know why that, I don't know why or what is telling me to make this decision. (47:05) I'm going to make it and continue with it.
(47:09) A lot of us aren't continuing to do that and putting ourselves in positions to actually make that call. (47:16) We focus too much externally because technology has created an avenue of convenience that allows us to source information and to make the best decision when sometimes trusting your gut and just moving is the decision that needs to be made. (47:32) And I get caught up in it too, right?
(47:34) You know, I'm trying to optimize many of the vitamins and supplements that I'm taking. (47:38) You know, I understand the importance of vitamins and supplements. (47:41) Now somebody says I need to take whole food vitamin and supplements to get rid of the synthetic stuff.
(47:46) So I'm like, okay, which vitamins are the best? (47:48) What brands are the best? (47:49) Oh, you can't buy it off Amazon.
(47:51) Make sure you buy it off somewhere else. (47:53) So, you know, somebody doesn't mess with your vitamins. (47:55) The point is we have access to so much information that it causes us sometimes to not make a decision at all.
(48:01) And we lose that self-trust within yourself to just make a decision and keep moving forward. (48:06) And the more that technology begins to sort of become immersed within our daily lives, the harder that it's going to be to continue to have that self trust within yourself because we're not going in to hearing our own selves and making those gut decisions. (48:24) And, you know, meditation, stillness, these practices help you to gain a level of awareness and self-talk where you're able to make decisions quickly, firmly, and then keep moving.
(48:37) And I think that's what's missing in our society. (48:41) And it's technology is honestly, it's making it worse unless you don't recognize it.
Julian Hayes II
(48:46) Mm-hmm. (48:47) How do you, how do you recommend somebody get started with the inner work? (48:52) If it feels a little woo-woo-y to them?
Chazz Scott
(48:56) And I love the term woo-woo at this point. (48:58) I don't care what you call it. (48:59) I've searched for tools to enhance the quality of my life.
(49:02) I don't care what you call it. (49:04) If it enhances the quality of my life, I'm able to love better. (49:07) I'm able to serve better.
(49:08) I'm able to be more present as a leader. (49:10) I'm able to show up as my best self. (49:12) I don't care what term it is.
(49:14) I'm going to use it and adopt it. (49:16) So the point is, I think is you just want to start with something. (49:20) I think for me, when you start reading all these books and looking at resources, there's a ton of information out there.
(49:26) You kind of get anxiety on how to sort of create change and foster wellness in your life. (49:31) The point is just to start somewhere to build some momentum. (49:35) And typically what I recommend to people is just find some time to have some space in your day.
(49:41) Don't get caught up on meetings. (49:43) Take 20 minutes before the day starts and just plan your day. (49:46) Write out six items that you need to complete before the day starts.
(49:51) Have a level. (49:52) You don't have to do meditation, although I encourage it, but just have some moments of stillness, of not so much busy work, because studies have shown that that actually enhances your performance and enhances your creativity in these moments of stillness. (50:07) So I like to start people off slow and then build momentum so they're able to see the changes.
(50:14) Because what's the point of you saying, oh yeah, yeah, to do all this stuff because science says, you know, you should, but until you actually do it and receive the benefits, then you're like, oh my goodness, my life is amazing. (50:26) I didn't even know I could feel this good. (50:29) And that's how I felt.
(50:30) Once I started, you know, implementing these success principles and a lot of the stuff I talk in the book, I didn't realize I could feel this good and accomplish much more with less stress and more ease and more joy. (50:45) I didn't think it was possible. (50:46) But once you start to see the fruits of your own labor, you know, things just start coming at you and you start to feel more comfortable in your own skin.
(50:55) You build that radical self-trust within yourself. (50:57) You build that childlike faith. (50:59) And then not only that, you're able to make strategic decisions much more effectively and feel comfortable in your own skin.
(51:04) So I like to start people off small so they can actually feel the benefits.
Julian Hayes II
(51:10) What was the inspiration behind the nonprofit work?
Chazz Scott
(51:15) Yeah, so I think I told you in college, so I went to Hampton University. (51:20) I studied computer science, got my master's in cybersecurity still down there. (51:24) But in Hampton, somebody told me about a book, Power Positive Thinking.
(51:30) I didn't think anything of it, but then I read it again. (51:32) And once I read that book in school, it completely changed how I showed up as myself. (51:41) And the reason why is unless you go seek this knowledge, you're always, you don't often realize how your results show up in life.
(51:51) And your results show up in life based upon how you think. (51:56) It's thoughts, actions, habits, character, and destiny. (51:59) Everything begins with a thought.
(52:02) And I think a lot of those principles, definitely not being taught in school, but for most of the listeners probably have read many of these success self-help books. (52:11) They always talk about your thoughts and what that actually means and how it enhances your life. (52:15) But it changed my life because I started to realize that not only do I have more dominion over my life than what I thought I did, but I can actually change my circumstances.
(52:26) And once I begin to change how I thought, it sounds super like woo-woo, positive thinking. (52:32) But the point is when you change how you think, you change how you show up as a person and you're able to think clearly, you're able to stand up for yourself. (52:42) And that's what began to change in me in school.
(52:46) And I said to myself, wait a minute, I got to give this type of stuff to youth, especially underserved youth in Baltimore and DC. (52:53) And we shifted it more so related to positive psychology, which was started out at UPenn by Martin Singelman on how to ensure that we're able to take these studies from positive psychology and say, okay, here are the things that a happy, healthy, and successful human being are doing. (53:13) And let's replicate that.
(53:15) You know, psychology, Sigmund Freud, a lot of people don't know psychology was based up, was brought up as a field of study to figure out what's wrong with a human being, replicate those studies, and then push that material out. (53:27) Positive psychology flips the script and basically says, what is a person that's doing that is happy and successful and sustaining their performance? (53:36) What are the qualities and what can we get from this scientific study as we study them and then replicate that and give that out to the masses?
(53:44) So, you know, we've been implementing sort of these workshops for the past seven years to really give kids the ability that they can manage stress. (53:53) They can change how they feel through, you know, yoga. (53:58) You know, we bring in nutritionists to come out to teach them how food affects their, you know, how they feel.
(54:03) And then also we do, you know, teach them meditation, but the whole goal is just to introduce these topics to them, to let them know that you have more control over your life. (54:14) Once you begin to use these tools to have tools to fall back on in life.
Julian Hayes II
(54:18) Absolutely. (54:19) Yeah. (54:20) I'm curious if you, if you were able to, you had a billboard and you can put a message up there for everybody to see as they come across it, what will that message be on the billboard?
Chazz Scott
(54:30) Oh man. (54:34) I think the biggest thing is your inner reality creates outer form. (54:42) And that sounds super mystical, super woo woo.
(54:44) I don't care what you call it. (54:46) The point is if you want to influence your life and change your circumstances, it starts with them. (54:55) And we miss that.
(54:57) And it's not taught unless you go actively seek that knowledge. (55:00) And if you go actively seek that knowledge, your life will begin to change in ways that you never could have imagined. (55:07) And I think, you know, many of these authors, Napoleon Hill from Maxwell Maltz, you know, science of getting rich, the secret, you know, all these success books that Tony Robbins and you know, all these leadership folks have been talking about is really getting at this one truth.
(55:24) When you change your inner state, your outer circumstances begin to change. (55:28) And if you can do that, you have more joy, more love, more happiness, more to give and more sustainable performance.
Julian Hayes II
(55:35) Absolutely. (55:36) What are you most excited about right now?
Chazz Scott
(55:41) You know, it's interesting. (55:43) I could, I told you, I'm writing my next book. (55:46) I got a TEDx event coming up, which I'm super excited about, which is crazy because, you know, many years ago, I was afraid to speak in front of people.
(55:55) Yeah. (55:55) But it wasn't until I started to train my nervous system and to, you know, visualization, visually, mentally see the things that you want to experience. (56:06) And there's a lot of studies that show that just the fact of me saying I'm excited to do a talk is new.
(56:12) And this is an affirmation for anybody that's listening. (56:14) Sometimes when you think you can't do something, there are tools to help you alleviate sort of that, that mental confliction that make it easier for you to accomplish things that actually get you to see you that you can do it. (56:25) So the point is, you know, I'm just excited about becoming better (56:31) at who I am, and then helping other folks that are on that same journey, (56:36) accelerate their performance, accelerate their joy, or have more joy, and just help leaders (56:43) really achieve more, but stress less because we have to build societies where people realize that (56:50) they have more dominion over their mind and body than what they think they do. (56:54) Because if you can have more dominion over your mind and body, you have more dominion over your circumstances in life, which is key.
Julian Hayes II
(57:02) Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because I was the same way. (57:05) And, you know, honestly, just podcasts and just being able to have conversations with a whole range of people from all different types of background has helped me a lot in terms of being able to actually hold conversations. (57:17) Because for the most part, I'm a little, I sort of, I don't want to affirm things, because what you speak, you affirm.
(57:23) But my old habits have showed a guy that's a little standoffish, right? (57:28) And so, you know, we met at the summit last year, and to think to do something like that, where it's, what, three or four people on stage, and everybody's just looking at you, I would have said, no, thank you. (57:38) No way.
(57:39) And so it's amazing how you can change when you start to speak to yourself differently and everything. (57:46) So one of the next things is, let's say, I give you a couple bottles of Porto wine, because it's fantastic, right? (57:55) You have a couple bottles of Porto wine, right?
(57:57) And there's three empty seats there. (57:59) And you can summon three people to join you for a conversation. (58:02) They can be dead or alive, but they can't be family or friends.
(58:07) Which, what three people would you invite there for a conversation?
Chazz Scott
(58:09) It has to be three? (58:12) Okay. (58:13) I can, I can write them off very, very quickly.
(58:17) One of those happens to be Eddie C. (58:20) Brown. (58:21) He started the second, the second African American asset owned investment firm in America.
(58:30) He's a personal, he's a personal mentor to me. (58:34) Huge philanthropist, started out of Baltimore, and his grandfather, my grandfather did actually did work with him. (58:41) And now he's a mentor to me.
(58:43) But the reason why I bring him up is because he is very successful and very rich. (58:49) And he is, his level of sort of continuing to give and serve is beyond amazing. (58:58) And I think for anybody that is successful, their mission is to be, to continue to serve.
(59:04) And he is surely on that mission. (59:06) He just gave, him and his wife just gave 5 million to Howard University, which is their alma mater. (59:12) And he's continuing to do work across the Baltimore area.
(59:17) People call on him to do great things. (59:19) And he is like a personal mentor to me. (59:22) Just the way that he treats people.
(59:23) We went out to lunch a couple of weeks ago in Baltimore, and we were sort of waiting for our table. (59:30) And as we were walking out to the table, we thought there was going to be a host there. (59:34) The host wasn't there, but we had sort of like walked in front of like another group a little bit.
(59:43) It was me and him. (59:45) And he turned around, he said, oh no, I'm so sorry. (59:48) I didn't mean to do that.
(59:50) And I picked up on that. (59:51) Like how do you treat people? (59:53) You know what I mean?
(59:54) And I think that's critical for anybody who's a high achiever, especially anybody of that status of wealth. (1:00:00) So that's number one, Eddie C. (1:00:01) Brown.
(1:00:03) Oh my goodness, man. (1:00:05) The other one is definitely Richard Branson. (1:00:08) The reason why I love Richard Branson is because he has this philosophy of serious fun.
(1:00:14) And because of the work that I do, it's so important to enjoy your life and actually have happiness because that actually enhances your performance and creativity. (1:00:22) And the things that he's done with Virgin is truly amazing. (1:00:25) Virgin Airlines, Virgin Voyagers, his cruise liner, you know, it's amazing to see his performance, but also to see him actually enjoy life on a continuing basis.
(1:00:35) Like that's the life that I want to build and, you know, help people realize that you can have both. (1:00:43) You can enjoy your life, but also perform at the same time. (1:00:46) So that's another one.
(1:00:47) And then last but not least, you know, he's something that I stumbled across and I think you might find interesting. (1:00:55) And I just added him to the list. (1:00:56) His name is actually Kevin Trudeau.
(1:00:59) He actually came out with a book many, many years ago. (1:01:03) I can't remember the name, but it was all about sort of disrupting the healthcare system and ensuring that, you know, you could maintain sort of dominance over your own health. (1:01:10) But the point is he was in jail for a little bit, but now he's out.
(1:01:14) But, you know, for me, for somebody who's an avid reader, I probably read 40 books a year. (1:01:20) I've read every success book that I probably is out there. (1:01:22) I'm still continuing to read more.
(1:01:24) But when I started to hear some of the work that he does, hear his podcast on YouTube, I haven't read any of his books yet, but he's pulling information that I've never heard before. (1:01:36) When you start to read books over and over again, you start to realize people are pulling the same common threads. (1:01:42) But Kevin Trudeau is one of the few individuals in the sort of self-help space and he's, you know, he's been putting out a lot of material lately.
(1:01:51) I've been thoroughly impressed with some of his knowledge and the way that he's able to articulate how to live a happy and prosperous life. (1:01:58) And he's not pulling it from anybody else. (1:02:01) He has the lived experience and unique opportunities that I think a lot of high achievers would be interested in learning more about.
(1:02:10) So that's, I just added him to the list because I've been thoroughly impressed and I've studied all of them, all of them. (1:02:18) And he is one that he, I haven't heard some of his knowledge before. (1:02:23) So.
Julian Hayes II
(1:02:24) I'm going to look up, I'm going to, I know Richard Branson, but I haven't heard of the other two guys. (1:02:28) So I'm going to research them. (1:02:29) They sound like a very awesome people to research and everything.
(1:02:32) So I'm looking forward to doing that. (1:02:34) So this is a selfish question. (1:02:36) I love to, well, it kind of reveals about the personality, but it also, sometimes they name people that I don't know about.
(1:02:40) And so I get to have more homework and go learn. (1:02:43) So true that, you know, but, but man, this is a great booking. (1:02:49) That's a great booking for the question here.
(1:02:50) This has been an awesome conversation. (1:02:52) We could have done Joe Rogan style where we do three hours of conversation. (1:02:55) We could, we probably could have had a whole hour just talking about Neville Goddard and spirituality and all that kind of stuff.
(1:03:00) And so where can listeners keep up with you at?
Chazz Scott
(1:03:03) Yeah. (1:03:04) So you know, I have a website, Chazzscott.com that's C-H-A-Z-Z-S-C-O-T-T.com. (1:03:10) If any of you are interested in the work that I do or even my book, I actually have a free chapter to the first chapter of the book that you can download on my website.
(1:03:18) So that's Chazzscott.com forward slash free chapter. (1:03:22) And you get the entire chapter for free. (1:03:25) I just want to provide sort of this knowledge and these tools to people.
(1:03:29) And then you can follow me on Instagram at Chazzscott, Chazzcscott, at Chazzcscott on all social media platforms where I kind of produce all of this stuff. (1:03:40) And I also have a newsletter, LinkedIn, as well as personal one be called Beyond the Hustle to help people achieve more, stress less, and not feel guilty for arresting.
Julian Hayes II
(1:03:53) Yeah. (1:03:53) Awesome to hear. (1:03:54) I'll have all that in the show notes.
(1:03:55) I can speak to his newsletter and his book. (1:03:57) They're both fantastic resources that I'm pulling a lot of value from as well. (1:04:01) Chazz, once again, it's great talking to you.
(1:04:03) Thank you so much for joining me. (1:04:05) Listeners out there, stay awesome, be limitless, and as always optimize today so you can lead tomorrow. (1:04:11) Peace.
